As you have probably noticed if you are a regular here, over the
last year I’ve been revamping my telescope lineup (amongst other things). I don’t just mean I’ve been
reducing scope head-count, though I have been doing that. I’ve also been developing a radically different take on telescope aperture and, especially, telescope
design.
To recap the past year’s minus column, almost unbelievably my
much-loved 1994 12.5-inch Dobsonian, Old Betsy, was sold. Also out the door went three freaking C8s including my 1995 Ultima 8,
Celeste, who’d been to more star parties with me than even Betsy, I believe. My
old-time classic Criterion RV-6 Newtonian also found a new home. Finally, my
C11 may go as well.
The pluses, the newcomers? First there was Zelda, a 10-inch Zhumell
Dobsonian. After her came Hermione Granger, a beautiful and bewitching
SkyWatcher Pro 120ED APO refractor. Finally, there was Big Ethel, a 6-inch
achromat of somewhat uncertain parentage (though there’s likely some JOC in her
heritage; she looks an awful lot like the old Meade AR refractors).
What was the why and wherefore of all these changes? In
Betsy’s case it was guilt. Guilt that
she was sitting in my shop/shack (a.k.a. “The
Batcave”) unused week after week and month after month. The ground truth
was that even though ATM Pat Rochford had done a lot to lighten up the old-style
truss tube 12.5-inch telescope, she was still more than I wanted
to handle (or could handle safely), even for star parties and other special observing runs.
The C8s? I was holding onto three 8-inch Schmidt Cassegrain
OTAs because…well…because I could.
Honestly, while I’d had the Ultima 8 OTA, Celeste, out a time or two since I
bought my Edge 800 C8 in 2013, it was only a time or two, and the other pair of
8s had not been used at all. Why would I? The Edge 800 (“Mrs. Emma Peel”) is the best C8 I have ever owned
or used.
Now for the incoming telescopes. My acquisition of Zelda, a GSO
10-inch Dobbie, is easy enough to explain. I like to have a large—well large
for moi—scope in the inventory. 95%
of the things I want to see/like to look at are just fine in a 4 – 8-inch instrument.
But there’s that remaining 5%, which is comprised of dimmer stuff. And
sometimes I also want a little more horsepower on the bright objects, horsepower
provided by 10 – 12-inches of aperture, which will make Messiers “spectacular.”
“Well, Rod. You’ve got a C11.” That I do, and I tried to
make myself start using Big Bertha
more than I have over the last four years. I removed her from her old GPS fork
mount and put her on a Celestron CGEM. That did help encourage me to get her
out a little more, since I no longer had to lift 66-pounds onto a tripod. But
only a little more. The switch to the CGEM just didn’t help enough.
Setting up the C11 and the CGEM is still enough work that I
rarely undertake it. Since the end of my observing program of a lifetime, The Herschel 2500 Project, which was
mostly undertaken with Bertha, she has, like Betsy, sat unused. I haven’t yet
worked up the nerve to sell the carbon fiber C11 OTA, but it’s become evident I
am probably not going to use her much
anymore.
Enter Zelda. As I mentioned last time, 10-inch Chinese
Dobsonians are both affordable and manageable. For 500 bucks delivered, I got
not just a scope with surprisingly—maybe even amazingly—good optics, I got a
couple of usable eyepieces, a cooling fan, a laser collimator, and more. Best
of all, I don’t mind setting Zelda up in the backyard on any but my laziest
evenings.
Now the hard part. Has
your old uncle gone from being Mr. SCT to Mr. Refractor? Let’s get one
thing straight: I’ve actually used
refractors for a long time, including a pair of spectacular William Optics
APOs, an 80mm fluorite job and a 66mm “SD” (ED) baby. There’s also been a 4-inch
f/10 achromat, a 4-inch f/6.5 achromat, an 80mm f/11 achromat, and, the
ancestor of all of them, the Short Tube 80 who came to live with me in 1999.
But why do I seem to be emphasizing
refractors now? Simple, boys and girls: They are just so easy. My 11-pound 120mm APO, for example, is wonderful on the CGEM
when I want to do serious imaging. She is fine on the Celestron VX when I am
not quite so serious. And she is usable on my uber-portable SkyWatcher AZ-4 altazimuth
mounting when I am not serious at all, just wanting a quick peek at Jupiter.
The light weight of the scope is just the lagniappe
on top of her other refractor advantages, like very little cool-down required
and no need to even check collimation.
There is still more to it. Not only are the visual looks I
get through the 120 very much on a par with what I see in the Edge 800, they
have that almost ineffable refractor je
ne sais quoi. Yes, some of that “refractor images are so sharp; their stars
are so tiny” business is due to their (usually) shorter focal lengths when
compared to SCTs. But, in my opinion,
refractor images really are sharper.
There’s also more contrast compared to an obstructed scope, and refractors’
thermal characteristics really allow them to capitalize on their advantages.
Even more important to me than the visual advantages offered
by a refractor, however, are the imaging characteristics of the lens scopes. That’s
a big deal for me now, since I am on an astrophotography jag again—heck, I even have
an AstroBin account. There’s no focus shift
or mirror flop to worry about and so no need for add-ons or workarounds to
exorcise those SCT gremlins. There’s also the usual short focal length and
wide-field character of APOs to consider. In addition to allowing wider imaging
vistas, if that is your bag, the smaller number of millimeters of the average
APO makes guiding mucho easier.
Are the images produced by a refractor better, though?
Better than those I can get out of my Edge 800? Optically speaking, probably
not that much. Deep sky imaging is pretty forgiving of optics anyway. However, the pictures I can turn out
with the 120ED are nevertheless better than the ones I can do with the Edge.
That’s because of the inherent ease of focusing and guiding the refractor. A
refractor is just a dream for me to use for imaging after coming off 35 years
of using SCTs for deep sky work.
So, here is the bottom line: I ain’t that old, but I am well into my spring semester, and I expect the
ease of use and portability of the refractors (and the 10-inch Dobsonian) means
they are likely the telescopes that will see me into Final Exam Week, if you
know what I mean. In the amateur astronomy game never say never, but I simply
cannot see myself acquiring larger/more difficult telescopes.
Does this mean I am against
SCTs now? No, not at all, not hardly. For many, many of you, especially
novices, an SCT is still the best telescope. Can’t help but be. While one is
not the best scope at anything, one
is good at almost anything. And if
you don’t know which sort of observing interests you most yet, a Schmidt CAT is
definitely the telescope for you. Even if it is not always the best telescope
for you, it may be the best telescope for you for a long time. I sure had a
good long run with the CATs, 37 freaking years if I date the beginning of my
transition to lens scopes to about 2013.
Just because a refractor is the telescope most useful for me doesn’t mean it is the most useful telescope for you, however. Let’s see if one
is…
A Refractor May be
for you If:
You are interested
in wide field viewing and imaging. Sure, you can use an f/6.3 focal reducer
on your f/10 SCT to open it up a bit, but you are never going to get the wide-open spaces delivered by the average f/6 or f/7 APO. Use an eyepiece longer
than about 25mm with your reduced SCT and you’ll get severe vignetting.
Certainly, if, like
most of us, you live where light pollution is a factor, you won’t get to
exploit this refractor strength often—the sky background will just be too
bright at low power—but when you can get out to a dark site, you will be
terribly impressed at what a four or five inch f/6 will show.
You are more interested
in the aesthetic quality of images than in seeing the dimmest, most difficult details. Only you can decide
what is more important to you, the pinpoint stars and high contrast of a five-inch refractor or the light gathering power of a 10-inch (or larger) SCT or
other reflector. Or you can, like me, have both of best worlds, and keep a
low-cost Dob in reserve for those times when you want “deep” more than
“pretty.”
Ease of setup is
important. Yes, there comes an
aperture point where refractors become difficult. That point doesn’t come until
6-inches, however. A 5-inch can provide most of the horsepower of a 6-inch,
though, and can be remarkably easy to mount and awfully forgiving of the
mount. And as hefty as she is, I’d still
rather set up my 6-inch f/8 refractor than my C11.
You like pretty
things. Yes, I think my Edge 800 is a very attractive scope, but, c’mon,
there’s just something about a refractor out on an observing field pointed up
at the sky in the gloaming that spells a-s-t-r-o-n-o-m-y.
You are into imaging the deep sky and are more focused on medium size/larger objects
than smaller galaxies and planetary nebulae. This is where refractors really pull ahead. As
above, they are generally easier to use for picture taking, particularly
by beginners, than an SCT (or a Newtonian). And remember: On extended
objects more aperture doesn’t get you “brighter,” it only gets you “bigger.”
The required length of an exposure depends only on the f/ratio of the telescope.
A Refractor May Not
be for you If:
You are after the
dimmest of the dim objects visually. There’s an old saw you will hear
repeated frequently in places where hardcore visual deep sky observers gather:
“aperture always wins.” There is no denying that is true. All things being
equal (they seldom are), you will see more with a larger aperture scope.
Chasing PGC galaxies? You want a 20-inch Dobsonian, not a 5-inch refractor.
You are a planetary
imager after the highest resolution images you can get. How do you make
high resolution planetary images today? You take thousands of short exposure
frames in as short a period as possible. For them to be well exposed, you need
plenty of light. The most efficacious way to do that is with a 10 – 14-inch
SCT.
You are interested
in a turn-key telescope. Something that appeals to beginners who are
struggling to keep their heads above water in the murky sea of amateur
astronomy gear is the modern SCT. You get a good scope on a fork mount with
everything included. There are fewer ready-to-go refractor packages being
offered. Usually, it is a la carte.
Finally, you may be,
as I was for many years, an astro-dilettante. If you want to take pictures
of Saturn one night, spectrograms of Rigel the next, and chase the Hershel 2500
the following evening, an SCT could be your scope. In fact, I will say an SCT is your scope.
You know what? There’s actually only one way to decide if
a refractor is for you: get out and use one. Join your local club
if you are not a member and look through the refractors some of your
fellow members are sure to have. Then do some long and hard thinking. If you
decide on a lens scope after that, I salute you. Come on in, the water’s fine.
Postscript...
Postscript...
So, what's different in the years since this article hit the Interwebs? Not much other than that, as you probably know, I sent my C11 and big GEM mounts packing. If anything, I've become even more of a casual observer than I was when this was written. My most used scope of late is a SkyWatcher f/11 80mm refractor on an AZ-4 altazimuth mount, which oughta tell you something. The reasons? There are several, but a humid, cloudy, hot, and bug infested spring and summer this year didn't encourage me to expend the effort required to get even my 10-inch Dob out into the backyard.
Despite not getting her out under the stars recently, however, I've been pleased, very pleased, with that 10-inch, my GSO Dobbie, Zelda. One of the best amateur astronomy buys I've ever made. While I, of course, observe for my own enjoyment, I also like to write about backyard astronomy, and the 10-inch ensures there are plenty of objects for me to cover given my magnitude 5.0 Zenith Limiting Magnitude (on a good, dry night). So, I'll be keeping her around, no doubt about that.
Am I going to thin the herd further? I'm going to let my "other" Dob go, a beautiful handmade 8-inch f/5. The ten inch is just more practical in suburban skies. I have a home lined up for the scope--I just need to clean her up and do a few adjustments. I should also get rid of my ETX-125, which hasn't been out of her case in ages. She's such a fussy little scope (she can be a charmer when she wants to), though, that I hesitate to pass her on to someone else.
But, yeah, refractors are where I've wound up, though the Edge 800 has been used recently. She was well-suited for my Sky & Telescope Test Report on the RSpec spectroscopy software, for example. But for my current and very casual viewing? Nope. Also, I was really put out when the paint lining the interior of the tube failed, I had to disassemble the scope, get as much of the old paint off as possible, and repaint it myself. That is the other part of the SCT conundrum right now. At Celestron, quality, even in a simple area like the proper preparation of a surface for paining, is a sometimes thing. Meade? As stands now with them in bankruptcy again, we'll be lucky if there is a Meade much longer.
Who are refractors good for, to sum up? For experienced, observers with good skills who've seen a lot over the years and don't mind giving up horsepower for convenience and sharpness. For deep sky astrophotographers interested in, as above, the medium/large targets, they are a Godsend. There is no good reason to use a large aperture telescope on objects like that. They are also great for all observers who need portability, like apartment dwellers.
Will Rod get a giant Dobsonian and a trailer and start doing the star party circuit again? Anything's possible, but at this stage of the game, I rather doubt it. But don't feel bad for me. My "little" refractors and I are having plenty of astronomy fun, thank you.
Great info!
ReplyDeleteI have thought of replacing my old Hardin optical 12 inch F5 with a C11.
It seems to be a mid point. I will miss getting the whole moon in one shot!
A big dob doesn't track as well as a C11.
Mike Boyle
Thanks, Rod for another good blog. I too have noted that my 12.5 Truss Dob has gained weight. I've very much enjoyed my new Sky-Watcher 100 Pro ED. Who would have predicted your could get such a fine 4" refractor for $650 (during the 2015 Christmas sale)?
ReplyDeleteJohn O'Hara
Oil City, PA
Hi Rod. I have learned a lot of SCTs (and many other astronomy topics) in your blog. And know I am very glad because it seems that I am going to learn a lot of refractors... Thanks for this interesting and delightful blog!
ReplyDeleteSaludos from Chile.
Even though this is about M objects, I do like NGC 1907 near M 38. It reminds me of NGC 2158 near M35. Both clusters (38 and 1907) fit in the same low power field. All these. clusters look great in big binos too and these are refractors too. My 25X100 binos blow my 6" Newt away, especially on open clusters.
ReplyDeleteHi Rod, I've just picked myself off the floor and stopped laughing. I thought you were the one who coined the phrase "aperture always wins"? It's certainly in all your books I've bought and read over the years!
ReplyDeleteBut, like you, I am starting to get a bit too old for lugging massive SCTs around. I will follow your further posts on this subject with much interest! Cheers, Phil.